PUBLISHING IN CHINA (Sue Kay)
28 February, 2005

(please keep in mind that this meeting was held in 2005 and things may have likely changed)

Have you ever thought about what to do with all those old lesson plans you've hoarded over the years?

Ever thought about writing a book?

Are you already writing a book?

Well what about getting published in China?

What a great idea, and dead easy to do right?

Definitely a great idea, but just how easy is it?

Last Monday our TDF session was lead by Sue Kay who has published 2 EFL books in China. The first was Business Writing, which sold out the first run of 6000 and then had a second edition printed. The second, which has just been published, is Practical Presentations, a guide to presentations and public speaking for English learners.

Sue gave us her hints and guidelines for getting published in China and talked us through many of the pitfalls. Whilst publishing is not generally a money-spinner, (you can either get a lump sum up front for the book or receive royalties, usually around 8%), it does get you known, give you prestige, and a feeling of contribution and satisfaction.

So here are Sue's ideas.....

...Publishing is a thorny field in most countries and is no different in China. The following are some of the points that I advise people to think about based on my experiences. I have no doubt there is much more to learn!

FLTRP The Foreign Language Research and Training Press (one of the most prestigious publishing houses in China)

1. First approach may be to the General Editorial Office (tel. 8881 7495). They will give name of division to approach.

There are a number of different divisions e.g.

General English Publishing

Higher English Education Publishing - (textbooks for universities)

Research into higher learning + literature + cross cultural communication

Basic English Education - (primary school and middle school)

2. Better, may be a personal contact (this is China!)

3. Be able to send a proposal and sample chapter.

4. If the publishers show interest, you want to know:

1. that you will have editorial control and will have time to proof read before it goes to the printer

2. the retail price

3. what %age comes the writer (don't expect to get rich unless you have a 'best seller'!)

4. what the print run will be (i.e. how many copies they will print)

5. how long it will be licensed to the publisher (exclusivity normal, but can be changed at end of license period)

6. when it will be published and made available for sale

7. where it will be made available

8. how it will be promoted

9. how many free copies you will get and how many at reduced price

10. conditions pertaining to reprinting - e.g. changes to original you may want to make

A less well-known press is the Beijing Institute of Technology Press. They did a good job on my first book, Business Writing, but didn't want to have to pay for it. Strange idea but it is apparently quite 'normal' in China!

It is helpful if you are able to promise that a number of copies will definitely be sold to an institution. Also, if an institution will agree to promote the book - this can be added to the front cover.

From our meeting Sue seemed to stress the importance of chasing up the publishers after you've sent your draft, otherwise they may well print it without your knowing and without you editing it!

Also, Sue stressed that you must be insistent with publishers, especially with the cover, the paper quality, print quality and price. They will heed your words, but you do have to insist. Publishers will have their own ideas about design and layout, and more than likely these will be different from yours.

In the meeting we all seem to agree that there are very few new ideas in the publishing world, many books are just old ideas put in a new, albeit very valid, way. While copyright is obviously an issue, adapting, re-wording, re-assembling and evolving are clearly within the grasp of all of us!

After all in a book on telephoning English there are only so many ways of saying: "Hello, who's calling?"

So, if you have an idea for a book, we hope the guidelines above may help.

In fact, if anyone else has written a book or is writing one, we'd love to hear about your experiences, learning, advice or questions.

After our session on publishing a lot of people have asked for more information about it.
Below is an e-mail from Vaughan Ross, giving more info and his experience of publishing here in China.

Thanks for that Vaughan, and if there are any more ideas out there please do send them in.

PUBLISHING: (Vaughan Ross)

I found the email about the TDF meeting where you discussed publishing very interesting; I spoke to Keith for a few minutes about a few things.

Getting work published is easy; getting it sold is the hard part as an individual
First is the concept of publishing at what a publisher or publishing house actually does. I think of publishing as getting an ISBN, for books, or ISSN for periodicals.
And I think of Publishing houses/publishers as distributors or agents who sell your work. The fact is anyone can get pretty much anything "published" you just have to fill out an online application form. ISSNs and ISBNs are issued by different organizations in different countries, the head office is in Paris though. If you do a search for ISSN or ISBN and the country you want your material published in, except for China, China has its own rules. Then there is an online application to fill out, in NZ they ask for three copies of your material to be sent to them.

This is how we published our journal, Education International. Some people think that there are quality standards etc.. to get work published, but actually that is only the case if you go through a publisher/publishing house etc. Then if they decide they like you work they'll try selling it. ISSNs and ISBNs are just for record keeping purposes.

That is why I say they are distributors or sellers, because that is what they can do but you probably can't.

How is this relevant to publishing in China? What I suggest is applying online for an ISSN or ISBN for your work and then taking it to a publisher/publishing house/school/university etc. to be sold/distributed.

There are two advantages doing it this way.
1. You own the work you did, not some publishing house they didn't have anything to do with creating it. This means that you have the option of using this work or excerpts as you please, and best of all the option to have it sold or published in other countries without having to ask anyone's permission or giving up a huge share of the proceeds.
2. It looks better when you take work to a Chinese publisher when it has already been published, and they still get the rights to use it in China.
3. You are also better protected if work is stolen, which is a risk you take if you show potential publishers you unpublished work to see if they want to use.
4. Complete editorial control-though they may want changes to be made of course
5. If you are being hired to write for a company or publishing house you can still do it this way, you give them the work do use as they please in China for whatever payment structure was prior agreed upon. But before that you apply online for an ISSN or ISBN outside of China, for example in the country you are from.

That way both sides still win.

I am doing this with a writing project I'm doing for a Chinese company in Beijing. Just remember to apply for the ISSN or ISBN before they publish your work. Because China has its own rules with regards to publishing it actually has its advantages for writers.

Think of it like this, although it's not exactly like this, there is China and the rest of the world. Getting something published in one place doesn't mean it has been in the other. That's why all the ESL books like New Interchange have published by Foreign Language Teaching and Research Press in them. Even though they were published by Cambridge, that means nothing in China, they play by their own rules.

But we can use that to our advantage.

Here are the steps again
1. Write your work
2. Apply online for an ISSN or ISBN
3. Offer your work to Chinese publishers? You may need to write up some sort of agreement to give them the rights to your work in China.
Issues such as the following brought up at the meeting you'll still have to deal with, but you're in a much better bargaining position and are protected a lot more.

1. the retail price
2. what %age comes the writer (don't expect to get rich unless you have a 'best seller'!)
3. what the print run will be (i.e. how many copies they will print)
4. how long it will be licensed to the publisher (exclusivity normal, but can be changed at end of license period)
5. when it will be published and made available for sale
6. where it will be made available
7. how it will be promoted
8. how many free copies you will get and how many at reduced price
9. conditions pertaining to reprinting ? e.g. changes to original you may want to make

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